Gilatona-Lis 02

LATONA INTERPRETATIONS 01

(continued from Gila Interpretations/Associations 04)

“Can’t believe I could be starting yet another collage series, Hucka D.: Lis maybe?”

Hucka D.:

We better get crack’n on Latona 00, then. You have McCartney from the Smipsons, you have Lisa V. from the same. McCartney, or who we talk about as Marty, is discussing with Lisa V. the benefits of a vegetarian life. But he is also telling her the secrets of Sgt. Pepper, front to back, hehe. And Quetzalcoatl. Have you read all of Red Collie’s Quetzalcoatl material yet?

bb:

Probably not, Hucka D. I think I read all the sunfish related crop circle stuff. There were 8 or 9 crop circles last year that shared that common theme — all related to the orbit of Venus relative to the sun and other planets according to Collie. He’s most likely right. And these are crop circle not created by mankind. So that means an e.t. message. The circles are giving us astronomical information. I’m not sure about the remote creation theory of his. I think they can move forward and backwards in time easier than he supposes. After all we’re talking about higher intelligence.

Hucka D.:

Before you go to England, you should read up about the sunfish circles again. And of course you had your own encounter with a sunfish in Sunfish Kentucky

bb:

… via GoogleEarth, yeah. But it was colored orange, like the inverse color of an actual ocean sunfish. No chance finding that in Sunfish, Kentucky, and *before* I knew anything about the sunfish crop circles, I believe. The Kentucky town was examined because of UmapS connections.

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bb:

“She’s Leaving Home” and “Live and Let Live… Die” mentioned in that episode. “Maybe I’m Amazed” played at the end, with a smashing lentil soup recipe backmasked within.

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Hucka D. (peering over my shoulder at the collage picture I just inserted):

The front and back of the Smipsons DVD becomes the front and back of Sgt. Pepper, two in one. I believe this might be seasons 6 and 7 — this front and back. Aren’t they magical, baker b.?

bb:

Could be, Hucka D.

Hucka D.:

And you know you’ll use the one with McCartney again in a future carrcass. (pause) Let’s move on to Latona 01… we can come back to this one. The rocks are sarsen stones from the Fyfield Downs northeast of Marlborough, arranged in a line by farmers. Lisa sits on the largest one. Lisa will sit on this rock again toward the end of the Latona series, when McCartney also returns with a new body in tow. It is probably Paul and Linda as androgyny. In a way, in a manner. Appropriate that Paul is lecturing about vegetarianism in a cereal field. As Glickman put it, circles are totally benign, and mean no harm to us meat beings. We are meat as well. What if someone else came down and tried to farm *us*?

bb:

Hadn’t thought about it that way.

https://bakerbloch.wordpress.com/2013/02/04/new-something/

So here’s “New Something”, Hucka D., a play on “New Pietmond” which I had just dismantled before creating the collage. We have superimposed on each other the remains of New Pietmond in Sikkima at the time — foreground — and then a second village I was playing around with in Snow Country, Sansara in the background. Different set of buildings in each at this moment. The background village was in turn dismantled after a couple of days, and New Pietmond of Sikkima became totally extinct in a matter of hours. So this is akin to Gila 04, where we have New Pietmond in all its glory, heights and depths, portrayed — at its peak. It was a great creation, but I couldn’t keep it around.

Hucka D.:

No. Then you have all the other collage elements positioned around the Second Life buildings, foreground and background. You have elements from, let’s see, Gila 00 and Latona 00, the two 00 collages starting each series, and then Gila 05 and 06 as well, the middle of Gila. So that’s Gila 00, then skipping 01 02 03 04, and then Gila 05 and 06 depicted, and then skipping 4 more collages 07 08 09 10 to get us to Latona 00. Very symmetrical culling, then.

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Lisa the Vegetarian is found again, riding or sitting inside the visible brain of the whale-monster of Gila 06. She seems to represent the 3rd eye, or the pineal gland in this position. An Avebury stone projects from the top of its head — another pine cone or pineapple symbol.

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And then across from it on the other side of the collage is a pineapple itself: your good buddy Spongebob Squarepant’s pineapple shaped home under the sea. Bikini Bottom, I believe. He peers out at the landscape through an open door… he is pineal. The pineapple’s shape is mirrored in the shape of Marge Smipson’s head of the Smipsons DVD in front of it. It is the front and back of the pineapple. The 4d cube atop Patty’s head is another representation of the 3rd eye or pineal gland.

http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012/hackpenhill3/hackpenhill2012c.html

It is squaring the circle.

bb:

It’s a 6x6x6 cube with all the edge units hollowed out. I believe the edge units would number 56. The internal cubes number 4x4x4 + 4x4x6. The core of the cube is 64 packed un-hollowed out cubes, surrounded by 96 more un-hollowed out cubes touching the surface. This would make a total of 216 single unit cubes within the overall cube, or 6x6x6. That works!

Hucka D.:

We better head toward Latona 02. What does Lisa V. head toward in the head of the Gila 06 monster? She heads toward the triangle, single point down. This is also the 3rd eye illuminated, but perhaps not in a totally positive way. It is like an eclipse of the sun. To reinforce, we have carried over the two horned crescent moon from Gila 06 as well, above Lisa the V. here. The “BIG” in the Knik’s head below this also acts as reinforcement.

(continued in Latona Interpretations/Associations 02)


LATONA INTERPRETATIONS 02

(continued from Latona Interpretations/Associations 01)

To summarize Latona 01, it seems to be about the destruction of New Pietmond, coupled with an exodus factor, like Lisa V. is using the Cherhill “monster” (riding in its brain) to escape, and also the orange (inverted color) sunfish to the left. It’s a bit of a scene of chaos — dishevelment. So what does Latona 02 bring us? Stability? Well, we’ve returned to Wiltshire and the crop circle region for more images for sure, so that helps with the grounding. The locations are from around but not within West Woods to the west of Marlborough, and one of 2 woods I’m really eager to explore during my England trip. As I’ll use West Woods for the culminating 3 collages of the Latona series, we must keep this in mind, maybe like I was close to the mark on this collage (Latona 02) but hadn’t quite hit it yet. Also the “singing Hermans” used in Latona 02 will return in Latona 08 09 10 (the West Woods collage), and employed in a more logical manner. They seem to be, when set up correctly, a protective device created by Lisa V. to, among other things, calm me in England while I’m there. In theory. Kind of like I’ll be in suspended animation. But back to Latona 02, I don’t think I quite knew what to do with the Singing Hermans in this one. The 2 very similar images (“singers”) were very close to each other in a search fo Rockley images, so both come from that area (north of Marlborough and the setting for a number of collages already in Gilatona). I knew their proximity was synchy, but only with Latona 08 09 10 did their meaning start to clear. Latona 02 is about death. The father of a good Internet friend died around the same time. I also thought of the death of my own father during the composition. The sun “swallowed” by the moon in the dew pond at the bottom of the picture (dew pond near Knap Hill). It is also about the death of Virgo (father) inside the direct opposite sign of Pisces (mother). It is both death and sexual union in this manner. The dewpond is both womb and tomb.

Hucka D.:

St. John’s Church in Devizes is important to go to, baker b. Go to the graveyard in the back. Look for [delete name].

bb:

Hmm. I got behind you there once again. Adding text behind you when you’ve already talked.

Hucka D.:

[Delete name]. Remember that. Make a collage of it as well. It is *the dewpond*.

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bb:

To continue with this, I believe the dewpond is also Drink Lake of Herman Park, as Master Shake, a drink after all and nothing more, is directly above it, hovering. Then the bottom Singing Herman is also Drink Lake, or just “Drink”. To give more detail he is a *fis*Herman. The line or cable in the collage, inside Shake, might then be a fishing line (extended from his purple straw), which saves the tiny Dr. Who here from the Satan Pit, which is also death most likely — the dew pond. Life is also sun — king/father and death is queen/mother. The letters on the sun and moon at the dew pond come from SID’s 1st Oz, and the 2007 Booker T. 15 part analysis of this pivotal audiovisual synchronicity, my most original contribution to the Golden Age of that now almost forgotten field.

Hucka D.:

We have a field here as well. Dewpond field. With rocks.

bb:

The dew pond is also probably Winesap, don’t you think Hucka D.?

Hucka D.:

Winesap Smimesap.

bb:

Okay. So as we’ll see, the Singing Hermans are also placed on rocks that Lisa the Vegetarian has just been seen sitting on earlier in the Latona series, or Latona 00. It’s the same rock. And then this rock will also reappear in Latona 08 09 10 with Lisa V. again perched upon it, joining the 2 Singing Hermans also perched upon the same. Confusing.

Hucka D.:

The Hermans are the same as Lisa the Vegetarian. She had to equalize the 2 parks, the 2 Hermans in this way. Frank equals Herman. Heman to Herman. She did it through the diamond. That’s the diamond that goes in the dogs tail to wag it.

bb:

I can’t just take it out of the ground Hucka D.

Hucka D.:

Why not. That’s what she put it there for. It belongs in the dog’s tail. Wag the dog.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wag_the_Dog#Title

Why does the dog wag its tail?
Because the dog is smarter than the tail.
If the tail were smarter, it would wag the dog.

bb:

Nothing is really resolved in Latona 02, Hucka D. Shake seems to center, and that’s what we have as a stability point in this one. But he has to be hollowed out to see the actual, inner workings or goodness. Jesus saves, I suppose.

Hucka D.:

Yes, Master Shake is Quetzalcoatl is Jesus. Indeed.

bb:

So we should probably move on to Latona 03 and 04, and this is a joined effort this time, Hucka D., and something quite new in my collage producing. Latona 04 was actually composed before Latona 03, and this makes it a Wheeler-Wilson situation, like we have occurring twice in SID’s 1st Oz, but the first use of it in that a/v synch sets the tone and embodies the symbolism. A nurse name Wilson (Head Nurse Wilson) and what we know will become a Wheeler in Oz for Dorothy wheels in Dorothy to the electroshock chamber on a gurney. When she arrives there, the failed electroshock treatment, which goes wrong at the very last second, is dubbed with a song already used in SID, but the *first* part of the song (introduction) not used before. This is Queen’s “Death on 2 Legs”, the first track of Night at the Opera. So we’ve reversed the two parts of the tracks in SID, with the intro coming after the song proper. This is Wheeler-Wilson. Time has become suspended because we have no past and no future here. Only present. Which may be the same as Norris. Space of Norris.

Hucka D.:

That’s my phrase. Anyway, we have Latona 04 on the right and Latona 03 on the left. Or is it the other way around — we just can’t really tell. We have to assign the number arbitrarily. This is what interested Booger Hays when he visited your Power Tower Gowlery. He looked at Latona 04 and then Latona 03. “What is actually happening here?” he asked. Well, I said it has something to do with Dr. Who, which of course I had to explain to him, him being from the 19th Century and all. I said that the red headed lady, or the “red lion” entering the pub the Red Lion, or standing beside it in the parking lot, is probably Melonie Pond, who has just died in the Dr. Who series along with husband Rory. She is defined by her red hair, you see. (pause) Oh, I said Melonie but I meant Amy Pond.

bb:

To remind: Dew Pond at the bottom of this collage, Hucka D.

Hucka D.:

Yes. The former collage [Latona 02] you mean. And in Latona 03 04, we are in Avebury, re-centering ourselves as it were. We have a kind of before/after story in the two sides of what in effect is one collage, but it’s difficult to discern what is before and what is after.

bb:

So I think this is also about the death of Amy and Rory Pond in Dr. Who, Hucka D. Talking about Latona 02 here still.

Hucka D.:

We must move to Latona 03 04 fully, however.

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(continued in Latona Interpretations/Associations 03)


LATONA INTERPRETATIONS 03

(continued from Latona Interpretations/Associations 02)

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So to the left — that would be Latona 03 I suppose…

Hucka D.:

Either way. Wilson and Wheeler again.

bb (continuing):

… we have Dr. Who or the equivalent showing off his pet *lion* to the 2 walking their “mere” dogs. Like, “oh those look ferocious but look what *I* have to walk every day.” Imagine cleaning up after it, Hucka D.

Hucka D.:

Then Baker Bloch sits in the corner, unchained as it were but oblivious to the world happening behind his back. He is chained in a different way. Opposed to this we have Frank Zapple not merely staring at the camera but glaring at it, projected from a 4th dimension again (like The Diamond of Methril, Hucka D. seems to be saying here). This is from his Lumpy Gravy period. You have or had been dealing with Zapple in maps… UmapS… and seeing the line or chain of Dr. Who as saving one from the grave; pulling one up from Idaho to Montana and safety. Billfork land, but also Frank’s Moving Mtn. Ooops, can I say that? I just did. So this is about Zapple and his music and his agreement within Billfork a bit. Zapple has already appeared in Gila 08, with Ingor Ratts there. Don’t you think Ingor relates to Ironmonger? Same letters used basically.

bb:

Proba-bly Hucka D. The Bee.

Hucka D.:

I know… I’m chatty this morning. Very excited that you’ve finished the whole f—ing series so soon. Gilatona-Lis. You must analyze differences between it and the Art 10×10 preceeding it. Obviously you have no animations in this one — oh except for the one (Gila 06 and Gila 10) and instead diptychs and even a triptych. In fact, this (Latona 03 04) is the first diptych/triptych of Gilatona-Lis, and the only one that doesn’t use Brian Marshall Roberts’ photos.

bb: (correcting)

That’s Brian Marshall… I mean Brian Robert Marshall.

Hucka D.:

Instead we have more GoogleEarth Streetview based photos on both the right and the left. This is from Avebury of course, as stated. So back to Latona 03. We have Dr. Who with his pet dragon, who is on a chain like the dogs around him but ironically already inside a closure — a courtyard — so no chain really needed. We have Baker Bloch turning his back on the events of the day in his corner… oblivious. We have Zapple staring and glaring directly at the camera, projecting toward it. This is “saved from grave”. This is why he decided to participate in the Sunklands Initiative and the Billfork Agreement. Dragon contained. Red Dragon.

bb:

The chain is also the 112 latitude line. Sorry to interrupt your flow.

Hucka D. (continuing):

The chain is also the 112 *longitude* line. Saved from grave. Lumpy Gravy. Pulled up. In Latona 02 just interpreted, we had Dr. Who being lifted up by this same line, out and away from the dewpond that also represents death or grave. He exits in the internal workings of Master Shake, invisible in part. Red Lion may be death, then.

bb:

Maybe we better move to Latona 04. Oh, and we have the little red figure walking through the 2 Avebury stones in the road to the far left, beyond Dr. Who and his dragon.

Hucka D.:

Free again; able to walk through the rocks unharmed. Passage complete. Bold walk as well. Strutting.

bb:

Diminutive compared to Dr. Who and especially Baker Bloch to the right.

Hucka D.;

So you requested we move to Latona 04. We have Dr. Who again, but he has been absorbed into a black hole. Actually he has fallen into a pit on his own volition. This is the Satan Pit. The black hole is formed between the very same 2 Avebury rocks we have been discussing. The red figure in the two collages between the two rocks is the same, trapped in time. Dr. Who falling into a black hole pit is the dot in the middle of a circle, associating him with Forest Home and the 2 Cardinal Roads the Forest Home circle of Alabama highlights. You have the beginning of one Cardinal Road highlighted in this circle, and then the end of a completely different Cardinal Road highlighted in another place on this circle. Beginning and end again, alpha and omega. Uroborous in effect. We do not know where time starts or stops. (pause to catch breath)

bb:

Thanks, Hucka D. Rapid fire. And Baker Bloch or the equivalent *is* chained in this one, near the other Baker Bloch also next to the central Red Lion pub of Latona 03 04.

Hucka D.:

Doesn’t matter if he is chained or unchained. He would be the same either way. Kind of like you are chained by an 8 to 5 job now but it wouldn’t matter if you were retired already and free. Not now anyway. Best you have work.

bb:

Thanks. Now the red haired woman’s hair just touches the circle surrounding Dr. Who falling into a black hole slash pit. She is obviously Cardinal, then.

Hucka D.:

Yes. Like [the 4] directions.

bb:

And this is who we’ve already called Amy Pond.

Hucka D.:

In a manner. She reappears with the crowd, disguised as a Red Lion or perhaps at least attempting to blend in with the Red Lion pub crowd. But she sees the black hole forming above the doorway, growing larger. The hand first draws the circle crudely, then it advances toward the door, becoming more circular, and then find fruition or centering between the 2 Avebury stones, forming that black hole that the red Dr. Who falls into, then. Is falling into this black hole a good thing or a bad thing? It’s both, actually. This is all about paradox and contrast.

bb:

Then a final piece is Ozmo playing a song to the children of Sound of Music. They like the sound of his music. This is an element directly borrowed from the Wheeler-Jasper series of the Art 10×10, and maybe the only thing borrowed in Gilatona-Lis from that whole 100 collage effort. It appears on Jasper 04. Here’s the appropriate link from the Britain Britain Britain site.

Hucka D.:

It’s 2051. Ozmo is free to play at the Red Lion pub in Avebury, unchained from copyright constrictions. The synchronicities are free. Have you protected them? Have you prepared a proper time capsule? Let’s hope so. Else they are *true* carcasses. Dead.

bb:

For the carrcasses to live, then Ozmo must live through time and space as well. Can’t have one without the other.

Hucka D.:

No, true. This is why Hayes shows up soon. Non-president R. “Booger” Hayes.

bb:

So let me draw back again for Latona 03 04. I really like this collage. The weakness is the middle line between the two halves is not quite symmetrical, which I couldn’t accomplish just using Streetview. I had to return to Brian R. Marshall’s photos to do this, but in a peculiar way.

Hucka D.:

The hand drawing the crude circle (to the right) is like the animator’s hand that drew the circle that is the basis of Ozmo to the left. You can have too crude a circle and too perfect a circle. The middle ground is just right, and that’s the circle on the Red Lion pub, above the door. Red haired lion stares directly at it, knowing this or realizing this. She hears the teacher, then. The people at the Red Lion pub are at a lecture but they don’t know it. Instead they stare toward to camera perched atop a car whizzing by. It is GoogleEarth. They are posing for *this* collage.

bb:

Dr. Who is staring directly at the camera as well, even as he is being absorbed into the black hole pit.

Hucka D.:

He is being absorbed *into* the camera. Like Red 7.

bb:

Oh and the fox in the courtyard… from Jasper 04 as well. It seems to reinforce the red hair of the lion/woman. The red fox is off its leash, unlike the red dragon of the twinned panel.

Hucka D.:

When you let go of the leash, you fall into a black hole. We better leave it at that and move to Latona 05…

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… here we have the Hackpen Hill white horse in the background, and yet another white horse in the foreground. We have the return of the circle centered by a dot like thing, like in Latona 04. This would be more in the foreground. But accompanying it this time are two more circles, arranged as a triangle. But in Latona 04 we also really have 3 circles, although in a line there. So it’s kind of the same thing. The circles have also become crop circles, and a specific one from Rockley already seen in the Gila series (Gila 06: “Monsters”). There it was chained as well, or harboured within a shelter, but with a door open. The munching monsters that are circles with “mouths” are about to be let loose there. What are they doing here? Oh, and the second white horse positioned just to the right of them here is also from Rockley — it is the lost Rockly white horse, only seen on black and white photos now. Or [only] one black and white photo, perhaps.

bb:

Cool. Let me look at this collage again… (pause) Obviously another thing that sticks out are the two hands, one white and one black. The white hand seems to be almost pinned down, as it were, by the 3 circles that are also the same as the Rockley crop circle, with the central (green) triangle. Again, this is a lot about the Forest Home, Alabama circle and the 2 Cardinal Roads. The roads below the circle come from Pine Apple, Alabama, which is where the main road from Saucer, Alabama (on the edge of the Forest Home circle) leads to… it’s called the Pine Apple Highway because of that. A map of Winesburg, Ohio is situated to its left… obviously there should be an association made, then, between the real Pine Apple, Alabama and the fictional Winesburg… the roads merge. This is a pretty complicated collage, Hucka D. (!)

Hucka D.:

Yes. And one that needs to be interpreted. You haven’t explained that the main black and white photo dominating the bottom part of the collage comes from Manitoba, and is one of the…

bb:

Let me help. According to this blog post, it is the aerial view of the 1st Igniting The Fire Gathering at Manito Ahbee in the Whiteshell provincial pARK. Important that a Native American named Don Cardinal presided over the lighting.

Hucka D.:

Let *me* help. You never got back to that Port Gibson-Cardinal explanation you promised [at the bottom of that post].

bb:

Well, I never got around to explaining the Bill Mountain aliens either, Hucka D.

Hucka D.:

That’s because you don’t know what they are.

bb:

I think a Forest Home is involved. That’s what I got out of the Forest Home circle in Alabama with Forest Home in the center and Saucer and Fake Herbert defining the circumference, which also indicates the two Cardinal Roads and their beginnings and endings respectively.

Hucka D.:

Respectively?

bb:

Maybe…

Hucka D.:

Maybe you should study up on the rock formations of (long pause)

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bb:

Of what? You mean the ones in Manito…?

Hucka D.:

…ba, yeah. The things that…

bb:

… ties it all together.

Hucka D.;

Of course.

TOGETHER:

Tie Creek.

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(continued in Latona Interpretations/Associations 04)


LATONA INTERPRETATIONS 04

(continued from Latona Interpretations/Associations 03)

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bb:

Hucka D., I believe this is the most difficult turn of the Gilatona-Lis series, this transition from Wiltshire back to America and then back to Wiltshire. I think Latona 03 and Latona 04 — the diptych — coming just before this represents confusion and opposition. This is the Wheeler-Wilson paradox, where things can work equally well both forwards and backwards. One has to go back to America…

Hucka D. (correcting):

Amereca.

bb:

… Amereca, yes, to get energy, to be grounded once more. And we start in Manitoba here. This is a door for others to explore, if not necessarily here in this analysis. The backdrop is still Wiltshire — Hackpen Hill’s white horse viewed in the distance, like it is in several other Gilatona-Lis collages.

Hucka D.:

Has it? You should check.

bb:

Well, obviously it is at least implied in Gila 03, which I’ve been revising a bit lately given the end of Gilatona-Lis and the enlarged implications.

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bb:

Strange, Hucka D. I just checked and this is the only collage that contains any Wiltshire white horses in their natural setting. Gila 10 also contains a white horse, but separate from the landscape and stuck up in the air, like a cloud. And here we have 2 white horses, the Rockley one defunct as stated, and the quite nearby Hackpen Hill horse still maintained. It is also the central white horse of the very odd white horse alignments I found during the composition of the Baker Bloch in England material — at the cross between 4 white horses, including the oldest in Uffington.

Hucka D.:

We better move to the third hand in the collage, which is from the Dune movie by David Lunch.

bb:

Lunch, yeah.

Hucka D.:

King Karb minituarizes and seems to go inside. In the Baker Bloch in England series, which *does* contain a picture of Hackpen Hill’s white horse, he is seen heading toward the horse as well, eventually to show up in Rockley *behind* the horse, and where the other white horse from the present collage use to exist. The box held by the third hand is the Pain Box of the Bene Gesserit. The top of the Bene Gesserit’s head is found in the distance, beyond Hackpen Hill or behind it. This is much like Marge’s head — or it becomes like another beech copse on this ridge[ like Marge, Selma and Patty before it]. So the witch is both in front and behind the hill at once. Like I said, the King, which is the same as King Tull of earlier in the collage sweep, seems to head within the box. He is, in this way, the hand that incurs the pain. What is the relationship between the Karb or the King in this collage and the one from the Baker Bloch in England series? Let’s put up a picture to help the contrast.

bb:

On it…

… well, we have a (flying) saucer in the earlier, simpler collage, and then we have a saucer *implied* in the new Hackpen Hill collage through Saucer Alabama and the Forest Home circle.

Hucka D.:

Saucer Alabama being on the edge of this circle, along with Fake Herbert. So there’s the Herbert (Frank Herbert) influence coming in as well. Fake Herbert and Saucer define the circumference of the Forest Home, Alabama circle, with Forest Home at its center. And this is the same or symbolized by the circle with the dot in the center, also in the center of Latona 05. The crop circle it is joined to now is also from Rockley, and will even show up once more in the Gilatona-Lis series (Lis 06) in an unexpected way. Rockley has a large gravity, it seems.

bb:

I had an epiphany about those two hands last night, Hucka D. Trying to think…

Hucka D.:

This is the 2 Hermans of Winesap[ Sminesap]. These are the 2 columns in front of the Temple of Solomon.

bb:

I think that’s it. In Lis 09, the final collage of Gilatona-Lis and just completed, we have two pillars guarding the brass plaque in the Alton Priors church. It all aims toward that plaque as it turned out.

Hucka D.:

Yes. That is TILE.

bb:

But back to Latona 05… (pause)

Hucka D.:

It could be that Latona 05 is simply too difficult or obscure to fully analyze at this point, baker b. We have the green triangle from the Gila series — Gila 06 (“Monsters”), we have the 3 circles carried over from Latona 04, the previous collage. We have hands.

bb:

What of the overlap of Pine Apple, Alabama streets and Winesap streets in the lower left corner?

Hucka D.:

We simply can’t know.

bb:

Well, I suppose we should move to Latona 06. Maybe we’ll have more success there, Hucka D. Latona 06 is maybe the smallest physical collage of the 32 in the Gilatona-Lis series, or at least that’s how it played out in the Power Tower Gowlery. This is also the only one with no Wiltshire elements, or in any way “set” in Wiltshire. Instead we are back in the US of A, our Amereca.

Hucka D.:

*Your* Amereca. You made the choice to cross the ocean, foolish you (smiles).

bb:

I guess I had to grow with Amereca as Amereca grew beyond Uerope and Britain.

Hucka D.:

Kind of. You had to follow others as well, to be fair to you and also Edna. You had to go with the karma. Where has it taken you? Arkansas? I would say Arkansas, but I say Arkansas for a lot of things.

bb:

Back to Latona 06, we have President Rutherford B. Hayes, who has mysteriously changed into Non-President R. “Booger” Hayes, but more on that in a moment. The setting at the bottom is Hayes Center, Nebraska, county seat for the only county of the US named for President Hayes in this reality. Then we have Mouse Island, Ohio at the top, which President Hayes owned in its entirety and used it as a summer getaway. His grandson use to drive darts into it.

Hucka D.:

Yes.

bb:

D is for Dart, I suppose.

Hucka D.:

Right.

bb:

Let’s put up a picture of Latona 06 before going further…

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… so Hayes here is holding a corndog, a smoking corndog. His Mouse Island is also, probably not coincidentally, shaped like a corndog. We have theorized terraforming for the island, like I can accomplish in Second Life even on my rental land now.

Hucka D.:

Same.

bb:

And I think you want to remind me this is where the fictional text grew strong in the blog — surrounding this collage and the elements therein. Hayes surfaced in the blog and became rather 3d, interacting with both of us. We were on Mouse Island with him.

Hucka D.:

He was trying to explain to us why he was the first US president who was not president. He was attempting to talk to us about the Big Cabin folder that has been mysteriously removed from his archive in [fill in blank]. It was suppose to be about the construction of a chimney for his Mouse Island cottage, the very same chimney seen in ruins in the collage[ Latona 06]. But in reality it was much more. Project Big Chimney is about [Clyde].

bb:

Clyde, Ohio.

Hucka D.:

And the 2 people who came from there, both fathers and both Wilson and Wheeler in one. This is Wheeler-Wilson. Or Wilson-Wheeler. The dates are 1860 through 1900 approximately. 2 score. This is what Hayes was interested in. Singing Hermans were within[ the folder].

bb:

If I could find that folder…

—–

bb:

Hayes unleashed the power of the Triumvirate, which is the pineal gland or the 3rd eye. He did this to unleashed Amereca himself. The Pope Project is chaining. Like The Devil card of The Tarot.

Hucka D.:

Yes.

220px-RWS_Tarot_15_Devil

bb:

And opposed or in contrast to this, we have The Lovers, card 6 of the Tarot.

the-lovers-tarot-card

Hucka D.:

That is what Booger wanted. For Amereca to love himself. To be able to look himself in the mirror and say “I’m okay. I’m better than okay. I’m perfect as I am. Now let’s change perfection into higher perfection.”. Because you can’t change the instant of the present, as you recognize it. But in the recognition or after the instant, change can start to happen. So Booger created an alternate Amereca, which is actually the Amereca we’re talking about. He centered it around Arkansas, but he played on the Arkansas-Missouri tension. He did this because he loved America. Can you go back in time and find out when Hayes first contacted Norris?

bb:

I would assume it would be about 1880. Probably just after he bought Mouse Island. Probably around the same time he went to Yreka. He began to see things both forwards and backwards at once. He talked to Norris about this.

Hucka D.:

But slyly at first. He told Norris about the coming of Anderson. And when did Anderson arrive?

bb:

Let me check. (pause to check) Looks like 1884, or when he was about 8 years old.

Hucka D.:

Anderson was a concoction. He never really existed. Or he existed in two places at once.

bb:

It was all about the book — Winesap.

Hucka D.:

Yes. The book made the man in this case. Not the other way around. It was unique. But it will be followed by more unique books later on. This is just a start. But it’s a big start — Big Chimney start.

bb:

Paul was the father of Leto, who went beyond him. Leto took a path the father didn’t choose. It made him half human and half worm, obviously a difficult difficult choice to make.

Hucka D.:

You only need to worry about Winesap in this life, yes. But when you meet the one who will go beyond you, you will know. You will be the father and he the son.

bb:

I am the son.

Hucka D.:

Yes, the son and also the father.

bb:

Back to Hayes… so he knew of this book and how the book made the man and not the other way around.

Hucka D.:

He was given the book, yes. Around 1880. At Mouse Island. He was told to say the project involved building a big and complicated chimney to his getaway there. Later his grandson drove darts into the island.

bb:

If this is coded into Ozmo, then Ozmo is obviously Mouse Island but also the corndog leading to Rooster.

Hucka D.:

Yes Hayes began to know about Rooster and R110.

bb:

Let’s get back to Latona 06, Hucka D. So Hayes is there on Mouse Island, in front of his Big Chimney which was actually a secret project concerning Clyde, Ohio in his home county, and near Mouse Island as well.

Hucka D.:

You can get to it pretty easily from either Fremond or Clyde, yeah.

bb:

And this has something to do with my “High Octave Story” from the ’80s.

Hucka D.:

Obviously.

bb:

Maybe I should just cut and paste that whole story into this blog.

Hucka D.:

An option.

bb:

We better start to wrap this up. So Hayes is there in front of his chimney which is also the secret project. And he’s holding a corndog, which is about Rooster and Hays County, Texas. And we know this because Hayes County, Nebraska is represented at the bottom of the collage in Hayes Center, its county seat. And, let’s see, the middle of the collage is also about Rooster — Rooster Teeth based in Hays County, Texas, most famous for the production of the Red and Blue series. So we have the logo for the show in the collage directly, or part of it. This resonates with the red spacesuit of Dr. Who in the previous 3 collages. But instead the spacesuit is blue, but blue and red are the same through the logo, or right and left of the same thing. Big Chimney obscures red… (pause) Hucka D.? And then we have a picture of Mouse Island from the air just below the blue spaceman. Then an actual picture of the “rooster teeth” projecting from the corndog. Rooster has something to say here. I think Hucka D. has flown the coupe. So in the center of this collage is also TILE, or the circle of TILE and its 4 colors, as displayed in the special version of that game/philosophy/religion. The yellow corndog, which should be slathered with mustard for increased tastiness, comes first, followed by the blue helmeted entity, then gree Mouse Island (Ozmo the Mouse is also green) and then finally the red spaceman mainly covered up by the second “big chimney” of the collage. So this is the first clear indication of TILE in Gilatona-Lis, don’t you think Hucka D.? (pause) Still gone. Rooster seems to want to talk about TILE.

(continued in Latona Interpretations/Associations 05)


LATONA INTERPRETATIONS 05

(continued from Latona Interpretations/Associations 04)

We’re at “3 Beetle Love”, Hucka D.

Hucka D.:

Back in Wiltshire. You took this snapshot in Google Earth but didn’t realize that a heart shaped grove of saplings was in the center background. Later you did, and returned to this picture for collaging fun. Ringo Starr — ahem, Ingor Ratts returns for this one, and now accompanied by not only George Harrison but the one and only John Lennon himself, or at least his head.

bb:

But that’s Lemon.

Hucka D.:

Of course. Put up a pic.

https://bakerbloch.wordpress.com/2013/02/17/oare/

latona07test14

bb:

So the “Introducing Lemon” is twice or sumtin appropriate here. Since Lemon — Lennon — is actually introduced to the Gilatona-Lis series through this collage.

Hucka D.:

His head fades in. Obviously we have some elements carried over from the former collage, “Central Hayes”.

bb:

Not sure if that’s the actual name[ of the collage] but go ahead.

Hucka D.:

We have Hayes himself, or at least his feet. His corndog holding hand now has been replaced by George Harrison’s, who instead holds the steamy dog. But Harrison’s head is in another place — just below Hayes’ feet. His head has been separated from his body. And it’s only half a head and half a body as well. You have recently been confusing Rutherford B. Hayes with Benjamin Harrison, a slightly later president of your US of A.

bb:

I have.

Hucka D.:

George Harrison’s head replaces the red spaceman head of the former collage — same color of red, or George has a red hat on at least [ like the spaceman dons a red space helmet]. The rooster teeth also reappear in 3 Beetle Love from Central Hayes. Along with part of the Big Chimney of Mouse Island, Ohio. And Mouse Island itself, of course, which has that peculiarly corndog shape — no cheer accident there. Now Harrison’s body actually covers part of the heart shaped grove in the backdrop. An article about that grove can be found in the above link.

bb:

Here it is again, Hucka D.

https://bakerbloch.wordpress.com/2013/02/17/oare/

I think Harrison’s half body equals half a heart, since it covers up the right half of the heart in the background in part. Like a broken heart or a lonely heart. Harrison is cut from the Sgt. Pepper album, along with Ringo and Lennon’s head. Suspiciously McCartney is not present here, the 4th Beetle as it were.

Hucka D.:

He’ll show up in the next series of collages however, or at least his head is there. And he’s been in so many already.

bb:

Gila 02, Gila 09, Latona 00…3 at least.

Hucka D.:

And Ringo?

bb:

Let’s see, Gila 02, Gila 08… also Gila 07. Zapple was with him in Gila 08, and then Zapple reappears without any accompanying Beetles this time in Latona 03 04.

Hucka D.:

Love the 3 Beetles. 3 Beetles love. No McCartney. No Mac.

bb:

The Cheer Accident cover becomes even more in parallel with the Sgt. Pepper album cover, Hucka D. Lennon shows up, and in the same relationship with Ringo’s head as occurs on Sgt. Pepper. The same for Harrison in respective to Lennon and Ringo, or at least his head part here. Oh, and the hand above McCartney’s head also returns.

Hucka D.:

It *throws* the heart from the album cover into the field. Don’t you think?

bb:

Could be.

Hucka D.:

Lennon appears here, without McCartney, and since this is Lennon’s one and only appearance in the Gilatona-Lis series, then it means he is never found with McCartney in this series. This goes against the Lennon-McCartney pairing all the Beetles records have tagged, or the ones composed by either one of the two of them, which is the vast majority.

bb:

Harrison wrote some, especially during their later period. “Something” comes to mind. A couple of others. But obviously he was frustrated and had a lot of songs in storage.

Hucka D.:

The presence of the window in the upper left corner, along with some room furniture, means we’ve never really left Ironmonger Lane in Marlborough, and we are actually inside instead of outdoors. In short, we are in a virtual reality, like GoogleEarth Streetview, say (smiles). Reality reality peeks through to the left. Physically, in Google Earth, we are south of West Woods but pretty close still. We are sort of in the same location as the top photo of Latona 02, as well as its dewpond toward the bottom. This is also the second to last time I’ll — you’ll use Streetview as the basis for a Gilatona-Lis collage, baker b. From now on the focus shifts toward Brian Marshall Roberts’ photos.

bb:

Well, again that’s Brian Robert Marshall, Hucka D.

Hucka D.:

Should we move into Latona 08 09 10, then?

bb:

We haven’t really talked that much about 3 Beetle Love yet.

Hucka D.:

Haven’t we? It’s the 3 Beetles sans McCartney. McCartney instead is projected in the fields of Wiltshire as a heart shaped grove, propelled by the hand that symbolically is united with his head elsewhere. The other 3 Beetles have all their heads here, and in the same position relative to Sgt. Pepper as the originals. Lennon — Lemon — decided he didn’t want to appear with McCartney, or else they work as a team, one without the other and the other without the one.

bb:

I’m still uncertain about the relationship between Apricot Bone and Sgt. Pepper. Is Apricot Bone a pretend band as well? I think you said before that it’s a Kinks variant band, like they also could have created in 1967. Instead they created the Village Green Preservation Society. “We are the Village Green Preservation Society”.

Hucka D.:

Apricot Bone is something else. Related to Pine Apple, Alabama and its Banana and Cherry Streets but more. Apricot is King Tull… 333. A tropic fruit.

bb:

We don’t seem to be answering much about what these collages actually speak of, Hucka D.

Hucka D.:

Oh we are in a way. I think we should move on.

https://bakerbloch.wordpress.com/2013/02/21/latona-08/

latona080910final

So here it is. The end of the Latona series in one 3 part band. Er, bang. Bang All.

bb:

Do you want me to start.

Hucka D.:

Well it seems that we’ve covered a lot of this… I’ll let you dig up the link.

bb:

Yes, we’ve covered a lot of this in an early post here. There we interpreted the 3 collages as mainly the story of my trip to England this summer.

Hucka D.:

I’ll be going to. I’m already there and I’ll be going back as well. And probably returning home at the same time — all three. All Bang.

bb:

So is that it for the Latona series? Are we ready to delve into Lis?

Hucka D.:

I’m game if you’re game. I’m surprised you don’t have any additional comments about the triptych. Maybe you should look it over again.

bb:

Hmmm… Hayes in Latona 08 is the US of A still, an anchor in the background, and I am the Spaceman in the foreground, sniffing the Marlborough cigarette smoke offered by Selma Smipson. The smoking corndog has been set aside for now. The dog and Selma’s cigarette may even be one and the same.

Hucka D.:

They are desires. Cigarette smoking is an addiction. Corndogs are an addiction. The blue sunfish erupts from Hayes’ suit, meaning you are in England, you are in Marlborough. Ironmonger Lane has opened up. Bluebells are ringing true blue. The Deepening Dike.

bb:

Yes, that’s the name of the mini-series of collages here: The Deeping Dike, parts 1, 2 and 3. Because all 3 collages are set in the Wansdyke running through West Woods near Marlborough. The 3 pictures are not suppose to link together in a causal way — all 3 are by Brian Robert Marshall by the way. Instead Marshall snapped these successively at different points along the ancient dike running West Woods[ but it starts below Marlborough].

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/409328

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/409337

http://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/409354

—–

bb:

Interesting to me that in Latona 09, Lisa the Vegetarian has taken the place of one of the singing Hermans on the rock, Hucka D. This is like the gargoyle of Lis 03 sitting on The Diamond and obscuring it from view.

Hucka D.;

That is the most interesting part [of Latona 08 09 10]. Lisa V. displaced the singing Herman to the right. The singing Herman is a gargoyle — both Hermans in Latona 09 are gargoyles. The orange sunfish is the backwards sunfish is fear. Fear of travel, fear of noise, fear of people and contact with. Your fear. Lisa the V. displaces part of the fear to make it symmetrical. Symmetry equals retreat of fear. Fear is itself divided in two. Lisa the V. makes two part of one thing and recognized — fear. The only thing to fear.

(continued in Lis Interpretations/Associations 01)

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