(continued from Latona Interpretations/Associations 03)
bb:
Hucka D., I believe this is the most difficult turn of the Gilatona-Lis series, this transition from Wiltshire back to America and then back to Wiltshire. I think Latona 03 and Latona 04 — the diptych — coming just before this represents confusion and opposition. This is the Wheeler-Wilson paradox, where things can work equally well both forwards and backwards. One has to go back to America…
Hucka D. (correcting):
Amereca.
bb:
… Amereca, yes, to get energy, to be grounded once more. And we start in Manitoba here. This is a door for others to explore, if not necessarily here in this analysis. The backdrop is still Wiltshire — Hackpen Hill’s white horse viewed in the distance, like it is in several other Gilatona-Lis collages.
Hucka D.:
Has it? You should check.
bb:
Well, obviously it is at least implied in Gila 03, which I’ve been revising a bit lately given the end of Gilatona-Lis and the enlarged implications.
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bb:
Strange, Hucka D. I just checked and this is the only collage that contains any Wiltshire white horses in their natural setting. Gila 10 also contains a white horse, but separate from the landscape and stuck up in the air, like a cloud. And here we have 2 white horses, the Rockley one defunct as stated, and the quite nearby Hackpen Hill horse still maintained. It is also the central white horse of the very odd white horse alignments I found during the composition of the Baker Bloch in England material — at the cross between 4 white horses, including the oldest in Uffington.
Hucka D.:
We better move to the third hand in the collage, which is from the Dune movie by David Lunch.
bb:
Lunch, yeah.
Hucka D.:
King Karb minituarizes and seems to go inside. In the Baker Bloch in England series, which *does* contain a picture of Hackpen Hill’s white horse, he is seen heading toward the horse as well, eventually to show up in Rockley *behind* the horse, and where the other white horse from the present collage use to exist. The box held by the third hand is the Pain Box of the Bene Gesserit. The top of the Bene Gesserit’s head is found in the distance, beyond Hackpen Hill or behind it. This is much like Marge’s head — or it becomes like another beech copse on this ridge[ like Marge, Selma and Patty before it]. So the witch is both in front and behind the hill at once. Like I said, the King, which is the same as King Tull of earlier in the collage sweep, seems to head within the box. He is, in this way, the hand that incurs the pain. What is the relationship between the Karb or the King in this collage and the one from the Baker Bloch in England series? Let’s put up a picture to help the contrast.
bb:
On it…
… well, we have a (flying) saucer in the earlier, simpler collage, and then we have a saucer *implied* in the new Hackpen Hill collage through Saucer Alabama and the Forest Home circle.
Hucka D.:
Saucer Alabama being on the edge of this circle, along with Fake Herbert. So there’s the Herbert (Frank Herbert) influence coming in as well. Fake Herbert and Saucer define the circumference of the Forest Home, Alabama circle, with Forest Home at its center. And this is the same or symbolized by the circle with the dot in the center, also in the center of Latona 05. The crop circle it is joined to now is also from Rockley, and will even show up once more in the Gilatona-Lis series (Lis 06) in an unexpected way. Rockley has a large gravity, it seems.
bb:
I had an epiphany about those two hands last night, Hucka D. Trying to think…
Hucka D.:
This is the 2 Hermans of Winesap[ Sminesap]. These are the 2 columns in front of the Temple of Solomon.
bb:
I think that’s it. In Lis 09, the final collage of Gilatona-Lis and just completed, we have two pillars guarding the brass plaque in the Alton Priors church. It all aims toward that plaque as it turned out.
Hucka D.:
Yes. That is TILE.
bb:
But back to Latona 05… (pause)
Hucka D.:
It could be that Latona 05 is simply too difficult or obscure to fully analyze at this point, baker b. We have the green triangle from the Gila series — Gila 06 (“Monsters”), we have the 3 circles carried over from Latona 04, the previous collage. We have hands.
bb:
What of the overlap of Pine Apple, Alabama streets and Winesap streets in the lower left corner?
Hucka D.:
We simply can’t know.
bb:
Well, I suppose we should move to Latona 06. Maybe we’ll have more success there, Hucka D. Latona 06 is maybe the smallest physical collage of the 32 in the Gilatona-Lis series, or at least that’s how it played out in the Power Tower Gowlery. This is also the only one with no Wiltshire elements, or in any way “set” in Wiltshire. Instead we are back in the US of A, our Amereca.
Hucka D.:
*Your* Amereca. You made the choice to cross the ocean, foolish you (smiles).
bb:
I guess I had to grow with Amereca as Amereca grew beyond Uerope and Britain.
Hucka D.:
Kind of. You had to follow others as well, to be fair to you and also Edna. You had to go with the karma. Where has it taken you? Arkansas? I would say Arkansas, but I say Arkansas for a lot of things.
bb:
Back to Latona 06, we have President Rutherford B. Hayes, who has mysteriously changed into Non-President R. “Booger” Hayes, but more on that in a moment. The setting at the bottom is Hayes Center, Nebraska, county seat for the only county of the US named for President Hayes in this reality. Then we have Mouse Island, Ohio at the top, which President Hayes owned in its entirety and used it as a summer getaway. His grandson use to drive darts into it.
Hucka D.:
Yes.
bb:
D is for Dart, I suppose.
Hucka D.:
Right.
bb:
Let’s put up a picture of Latona 06 before going further…
… so Hayes here is holding a corndog, a smoking corndog. His Mouse Island is also, probably not coincidentally, shaped like a corndog. We have theorized terraforming for the island, like I can accomplish in Second Life even on my rental land now.
Hucka D.:
Same.
bb:
And I think you want to remind me this is where the fictional text grew strong in the blog — surrounding this collage and the elements therein. Hayes surfaced in the blog and became rather 3d, interacting with both of us. We were on Mouse Island with him.
Hucka D.:
He was trying to explain to us why he was the first US president who was not president. He was attempting to talk to us about the Big Cabin folder that has been mysteriously removed from his archive in [fill in blank]. It was suppose to be about the construction of a chimney for his Mouse Island cottage, the very same chimney seen in ruins in the collage[ Latona 06]. But in reality it was much more. Project Big Chimney is about [Clyde].
bb:
Clyde, Ohio.
Hucka D.:
And the 2 people who came from there, both fathers and both Wilson and Wheeler in one. This is Wheeler-Wilson. Or Wilson-Wheeler. The dates are 1860 through 1900 approximately. 2 score. This is what Hayes was interested in. Singing Hermans were within[ the folder].
bb:
If I could find that folder…
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bb:
Hayes unleashed the power of the Triumvirate, which is the pineal gland or the 3rd eye. He did this to unleashed Amereca himself. The Pope Project is chaining. Like The Devil card of The Tarot.
Hucka D.:
Yes.
bb:
And opposed or in contrast to this, we have The Lovers, card 6 of the Tarot.
Hucka D.:
That is what Booger wanted. For Amereca to love himself. To be able to look himself in the mirror and say “I’m okay. I’m better than okay. I’m perfect as I am. Now let’s change perfection into higher perfection.”. Because you can’t change the instant of the present, as you recognize it. But in the recognition or after the instant, change can start to happen. So Booger created an alternate Amereca, which is actually the Amereca we’re talking about. He centered it around Arkansas, but he played on the Arkansas-Missouri tension. He did this because he loved America. Can you go back in time and find out when Hayes first contacted Norris?
bb:
I would assume it would be about 1880. Probably just after he bought Mouse Island. Probably around the same time he went to Yreka. He began to see things both forwards and backwards at once. He talked to Norris about this.
Hucka D.:
But slyly at first. He told Norris about the coming of Anderson. And when did Anderson arrive?
bb:
Let me check. (pause to check) Looks like 1884, or when he was about 8 years old.
Hucka D.:
Anderson was a concoction. He never really existed. Or he existed in two places at once.
bb:
It was all about the book — Winesap.
Hucka D.:
Yes. The book made the man in this case. Not the other way around. It was unique. But it will be followed by more unique books later on. This is just a start. But it’s a big start — Big Chimney start.
bb:
Paul was the father of Leto, who went beyond him. Leto took a path the father didn’t choose. It made him half human and half worm, obviously a difficult difficult choice to make.
Hucka D.:
You only need to worry about Winesap in this life, yes. But when you meet the one who will go beyond you, you will know. You will be the father and he the son.
bb:
I am the son.
Hucka D.:
Yes, the son and also the father.
bb:
Back to Hayes… so he knew of this book and how the book made the man and not the other way around.
Hucka D.:
He was given the book, yes. Around 1880. At Mouse Island. He was told to say the project involved building a big and complicated chimney to his getaway there. Later his grandson drove darts into the island.
bb:
If this is coded into Ozmo, then Ozmo is obviously Mouse Island but also the corndog leading to Rooster.
Hucka D.:
Yes Hayes began to know about Rooster and R110.
bb:
Let’s get back to Latona 06, Hucka D. So Hayes is there on Mouse Island, in front of his Big Chimney which was actually a secret project concerning Clyde, Ohio in his home county, and near Mouse Island as well.
Hucka D.:
You can get to it pretty easily from either Fremond or Clyde, yeah.
bb:
And this has something to do with my “High Octave Story” from the ’80s.
Hucka D.:
Obviously.
bb:
Maybe I should just cut and paste that whole story into this blog.
Hucka D.:
An option.
bb:
We better start to wrap this up. So Hayes is there in front of his chimney which is also the secret project. And he’s holding a corndog, which is about Rooster and Hays County, Texas. And we know this because Hayes County, Nebraska is represented at the bottom of the collage in Hayes Center, its county seat. And, let’s see, the middle of the collage is also about Rooster — Rooster Teeth based in Hays County, Texas, most famous for the production of the Red and Blue series. So we have the logo for the show in the collage directly, or part of it. This resonates with the red spacesuit of Dr. Who in the previous 3 collages. But instead the spacesuit is blue, but blue and red are the same through the logo, or right and left of the same thing. Big Chimney obscures red… (pause) Hucka D.? And then we have a picture of Mouse Island from the air just below the blue spaceman. Then an actual picture of the “rooster teeth” projecting from the corndog. Rooster has something to say here. I think Hucka D. has flown the coupe. So in the center of this collage is also TILE, or the circle of TILE and its 4 colors, as displayed in the special version of that game/philosophy/religion. The yellow corndog, which should be slathered with mustard for increased tastiness, comes first, followed by the blue helmeted entity, then gree Mouse Island (Ozmo the Mouse is also green) and then finally the red spaceman mainly covered up by the second “big chimney” of the collage. So this is the first clear indication of TILE in Gilatona-Lis, don’t you think Hucka D.? (pause) Still gone. Rooster seems to want to talk about TILE.
(continued in Latona Interpretations/Associations 05)
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